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Thoma, John

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  • Name Thoma, John 
    Born 13 Sep 1877  Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6] 
    Gender Male 
    Census 1880  St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [7, 8] 
    • The Thoma household was enumerated twice in the 1880 federal census. The first enumeration, in June, was rejected. The second, which seems to have been accepted as official, was dated November 1880. In the latter, John's family appears to be living at 220 Jackson Street. He was identified as single, 3 years of age, having been born in Missouri.
    Census 1900  St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [3] 
    • In the 1900 federal census, the Thoma family is living at 2331 South Second Street. John is one of two children living with Conrad and Anna Thoma. He was identified as a 22 year old single man, born September 1877 in Missouri, working as a laborer in a rolling mill.
    Census 1910  St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [9] 
    • In the 1910 federal census, John was living in his mother's household at 208 Lami Street. He was identified as a 32 year old widower who had been born in Missouri and was working as a bartender.
    Census 1920  St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [5] 
    • According to the 1920 federal census, John Thoma was living in the household of sister's family, Louis and Louisa (Thoma) Merkel, at 6264 Gravois Avenue. He was identified as a 42 year old single widower, working as a bartender. His brother in law happened to be the owner of a saloon.
    Died 3 Apr 1958  St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [10] 
    • John died from bronchopneumonia at 11:13 a.m. at the Veterans Administration Hospital, 915 North Grand Avenue, after a stay of two days. According to his death certificate, he was a veteran of the Spanish-American War and World War I.
    Buried 5 Apr 1958  St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [11] 
    • According to his death certificate, John was to be buried at New St. Marcus Cemetery, 7901 Gravois Avenue.
    Person ID I4697  Fiegenbaum
    Last Modified 6 Apr 2014 

    Father Thoma, Conrad,   b. 11 Jan 1839, Kingdom of Württemberg Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 19 Oct 1903, St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 64 years) 
    Mother Elbert, Anna Maria,   b. Nov 1838, Kingdom of Bavaria Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1910, St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 73 years) 
    Married 24 Apr 1864  Baltimore, Baltimore County, Maryland, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [12, 13, 14, 15, 16] 

    •      In her Declaration for Widow's Pension (sworn to on November 16, 1903, and stamped by the US Pension Office on November 14, 1903), Anna declares that she was married to Conrad Thoma under the name of Anna M. Schneider and was a widow at the time of her marriage to Thoma. She further states that Conrad Thoma was single and had never been married before. A letter from the Baltimore Cemetery Company (8 South Street, Baltimore, Maryland), dated January 16, 1904, certifies that Lawrence Schneider died of apoplexy [stroke?] on February 16, 1864 at the age of 59 years and was buried February 18, 1864 in grave No. 4, Lot No. 93, Section II "in said cemetery". Signed by William R. Fluharty, Secretary. The letter bears the US Pension Office stamp with the date of February 9, 1904.
    Notes 
    • According to the Declaration for Widow's Pension, Anna and Conrad had 11 children, but only five were still alive in 1903, and all of these were over 16 years of age. [17]
    Family ID F176  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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  • Sources 
    1. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T9, roll 719, page 365. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1880 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Supervisor’s District 1, Enumeration District 57, page 10 B, enumerated 4 June 1880, 2208 [Step?] Street, dwelling 108, family 8, lines 16-23. John Thoma; age 3; son of Conrad Thoma; single; born in Missouri. The reported age would yield a birth date of 1876-1877 by calculation. This enumeration was stamped First Enumeration Rejected; compare with the enumeration of 12 November 1880 (NARA microfilm T9, roll 729, page 379; Supervisor's District 71, Enumeration District 138, page 16 D,dwelling 19, family 50, lines 27-34).

    2. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T9, roll 729, page 379. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1880 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Supervisor’s District 71, Enumeration District 138, page 16 D, enumerated 12 November 1880, [220?] Jackson Street, dwelling 19, family 50, lines 27-34. John Thoma; age 3; son of Conrad Thoma; single; born in Missouri. The reported age would yield a birth date of 1876-1877 by calculation. A previous enumeration of this household was stamped First Enumeration Rejected; compare with the enumeration of 4 June 1880 (NARA microfilm T9, roll 719, page 365; Supervisor's District 1, Enumeration District 57, page 10 B,dwelling 108, family 8, lines 16-23).

    3. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T623, roll 892, p.199 B. Accessed through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1900 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Ward 8, Supervisor's District 11, Enumerator's District 117, sheet 1 B, 2331 South Second Street, dwelling 11, family 20, lines 86-89. John Thoma; son of Conrad Thoma; born September 1877; age 22 years; single; born in Missouri; laborer in a rolling mill.

    4. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T624, roll 815, page 205 A. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Anna Thoma household, 1910 U.S. census, Missouri, City of St. Louis, ward 9, Supervisor’s District 10, Enumeration District 150, sheet 17 B, enumerated 26 April 1910, 208 [Lami?] Street, dwelling 154, family 361, lines 80-81. John Thoma; son of Anna Thoma; age 32; widower; born in Missouri; bartender. The reported age would yield a year of birth of 1877-1878 by calculation.

    5. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T625, roll 954, page 37 A. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Louis Merkel household, 1920 U.S. census, Missouri, City of St. Louis, ward 12, Supervisor’s District 183, Enumeration District 223, sheet 6 B, enumerated 7 January 1920, 6264 Gravois Ave., dwelling 123, family 142, lines 75-78. John Thoma; brother in law of Louis Merkel; male; age 42; widower; born in Missouri; bartender.

    6. [S237] Missouri State Archives, Missouri Death Certificates Database (https://s1.sos.mo.gov/records/Archives/ArchivesMvc/ - last confirmed in August 2017), John Thoma; St. Louis (city); 1958.
      Accessed in September 2011.
           Division of Health of Missouri, Standard Certificate of Death #58-016541. For John Thoma. A white, male born on 9/13/77 [i.e., 13 September 1877]. Father's name: Conrad Thoma. Mother's maiden name: Anna Albert. Personal information was provided by VAH, of St. Louis, Missouri.
           VAH probably refers to "Veterans Administration Hospital." See the notes for this person's death for more details of the death certificate.

    7. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T9, roll 719, page 365. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1880 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Supervisor’s District 1, Enumeration District 57, page 10 B, enumerated 4 June 1880, 2208 [Step?] Street, dwelling 108, family 8, lines 16-23. John Thoma; age 3; son of Conrad Thoma; single; born in Missouri. This enumeration was stamped First Enumeration Rejected; compare with the enumeration of 12 November 1880 (NARA microfilm T9, roll 729, page 379; Supervisor's District 71, Enumeration District 138, page 16 D,dwelling 19, family 50, lines 27-34).

    8. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T9, roll 729, page 379. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1880 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Supervisor’s District 71, Enumeration District 138, page 16 D, enumerated 12 November 1880, [220?] Jackson Street, dwelling 19, family 50, lines 27-34. John Thoma; age 3; son of Conrad Thoma; single; born in Missouri. A previous enumeration of this household was stamped First Enumeration Rejected; compare with the enumeration of 4 June 1880 (NARA microfilm T9, roll 719, page 365; Supervisor's District 1, Enumeration District 57, page 10 B,dwelling 108, family 8, lines 16-23).

    9. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T624, roll 815, page 205 A. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Anna Thoma household, 1910 U.S. census, Missouri, City of St. Louis, ward 9, Supervisor’s District 10, Enumeration District 150, sheet 17 B, enumerated 26 April 1910, 208 [Lami?] Street, dwelling 154, family 361, lines 80-81. John Thoma; son of Anna Thoma; age 32; widower; born in Missouri; bartender.

    10. [S237] Missouri State Archives, Missouri Death Certificates Database (https://s1.sos.mo.gov/records/Archives/ArchivesMvc/ - last confirmed in August 2017), John Thoma; St. Louis (city); 1958.
      Accessed in September 2011.
           Division of Health of Missouri, Standard Certificate of Death #58-016541. For John Thoma. A white, male born on 9/13/77 [i.e., 13 September 1877]. Father's name: Conrad Thoma. Mother's maiden name: Anna Albert. Died at 11:13 a.m. on 4/3/58 [i.e., 3 April 1958] in VAH, 915 N. Grand Ave., St. Louis, Missouri (within the city limits) after a stay of 20 days at the age of 80 years. His usual residence was 6266 Gravois Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri. He lived within the city limits; he did not live on a farm. He was divorced at the time of death; the name of the spouse was not recorded. His usual occupation was Unknown; the kind of business was Unknown. He had served in the U.S. armed forces - "SPAW & WWI." His social security number was Unknown. Direct cause of death was "bronchopneumonia" (2 days duration). There was an autopsy. The death was not the result of Accident, Suicide, or Homicide. Burial was to be on 5 April 1858 in "New St. Marcus Cemetery" at 7901 Gravois Avenue, Missouri. The funeral director was Zeegenheim [sic] Bros., of 6409 Gravois Avenue. Personal information was provided by VAH, of St. Louis, Missouri. VA attended the deceased from 14 March 1958 to 3 April 1958; David L. Sockler, M.D. signed the death certificate on 3 April 1958. The certificate was received by the local registrar on 4 April 1958.
           VAH probably refers to "Veterans Administration Hospital." In September 2011, the St. Louis Veterans Affairs Medical Center, John Cochran Division, is still located at 915 North Grand Blvd., St. Louis, Missouri.

    11. [S237] Missouri State Archives, Missouri Death Certificates Database (https://s1.sos.mo.gov/records/Archives/ArchivesMvc/ - last confirmed in August 2017), John Thoma; St. Louis (city); 1958.
      Accessed in September 2011.
           Division of Health of Missouri, Standard Certificate of Death #58-016541. For John Thoma. Died at 11:13 a.m. on 4/3/58 [i.e., 3 April 1958] in VAH, 915 N. Grand Ave., St. Louis, Missouri. Burial was to be on 5 April 1858 in "New St. Marcus Cemetery" at 7901 Gravois Avenue, Missouri. The funeral director was Zeegenheim [sic] Bros., of 6409 Gravois Avenue. Personal information was provided by VAH, of St. Louis, Missouri.
           VAH probably refers to "Veterans Administration Hospital." See the notes for this person's death for more details of the death certificate.

    12. [S18] US Pension Office; application for Widow's Pension, Application for widow's pension to the US Pension Office under provisions of the Act of June 27, 1890, and amendments.
      Photocopy of certificate. Sworn to on November 16, 1903. Stamped by the US Pension Office on November 24, 1903. Notariized by Charles Boettger. Witnessed by Alma Seibert of 206 Lami Street, St. Louis and Louisa Merkel of 410 Lami Street, St. Louis.

    13. [S19] Correspondence.
      Photocopy of a letter dated April 1, 1898 testifying to the marriage of Conrad Thoma and Mrs. Anna Maria Schneider, nee Elbert both of Baltimore City, Maryland on April 24, 1864 in Baltimore by the Rev. L. D. Ma_er, then pastor of St. Matthew's E[vangelical?] Lutheran Church of Baltimore, MD. Signed by the current pastor of the church, Ed. D[uber?] The letter bears the dated stamp (December 17, 1903) of the US Pension Office. This letter was apparently part of the documentation Anna submitted when applying for a pension as Conrad's widow.

    14. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T623, roll 892, p.199 B. Accessed through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1900 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Ward 8, Supervisor's District 11, Enumerator's District 117, sheet 1 B, 2331 South Second Street, dwelling 11, family 20, lines 86-89. Conrad Thoma (born January 1839 in Germany; age 61 years) and Anna Thoma (born November 1838 in Germany; age 61) married for 36 years. This would yield a date of marriage of 1863-1864 by calculation. The enumeration further identifies Anna as the mother of 13 children, 5 of whom were still living in 1900. Compare the number of children in this enumeration with the 1910 federal census, where Anna is the mother of 9 children, 5 still living.

    15. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T624, roll 815, page 205 A. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Anna Thoma household, 1910 U.S. census, Missouri, City of St. Louis, ward 9, Supervisor’s District 10, Enumeration District 150, sheet 17 B, enumerated 26 April 1910, 208 [Lami?] Street, dwelling 154, family 361, lines 80-81. Anna Thoma; age 71; widow; mother of 9 children, 5 of them still living. Compare the number of children in this enumeration with the 1900 federal census, where Anna is the mother of 13 children, 5 still living.

    16. [S155] Missouri State Archives. Online Resources and Datatbases, Missouri Death Certificate Database. (http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/). November 2007.
      State Board of Health of Missouri, Standard Certificate of Death #4590. For Louisa Merkel. Born 10 January 1876 in Missouri. Father's name: Conrad Thoma, born in Germany. Mother's maiden name: Anna Alberts, born in Germany. Personal information was provided by John Thoma, of 6264 Gravois Avenue.
           See the notes for this person's death for more details of the death certificate.

    17. [S18] US Pension Office; application for Widow's Pension, Application for widow's pension to the US Pension Office under provisions of the Act of June 27, 1890, and amendments.


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