Home Search  
Print

Thoma, Conrad

Male 1839 - 1903  (64 years)


Personal Information    |    Sources    |    Event Map    |    All    |    PDF

  • Name Thoma, Conrad 
    Born 11 Jan 1839  Kingdom of Württemberg Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] 
    • Private Conrad Thoma was wounded in action at Bull Run, Virginia on July, 21, 1861. He was judged to be partially disabled, and discharged from the Army on October 21, 1861. At that time he was 5' 4½" tall and 24 years old, of fair complexion, with grey eyes and brown hair. By occupation he was a laborer. The Certificate of Disability for Discharge and the Certificates for Pension filed in October 1861 state that Conrad Thoma "is twenty four years of age". On both forms the words "is" and "years of age" are pre-printed. A space is provided for the person completing the form to enter the number of those years. If these two standard forms have been filled out correctly, Conrad Thoma would have been 24 years old in 1861. By calculation, this would give him a date of birth of 1837 (It seems less likely the reference is to his age at the time of his enlistment in 1858; this would give him a birth date of 1834). This does not agree with a date of birth of January 11, 1839 stated on the Copy of the Certificate of Death issued by the City of St. Louis on November 30, 1903. On the Certificate of Disability for Discharge, the place of birth is recorded as 'Walinberg', Germany. In the 1900 U.S. census, Conrad's birth date is recorded as Jan 1839.
    Gender Male 
    Immigration 1854  USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [2] 
    • In the 1990 federal census, Conrad is enumerated as a naturalized citizen who immigrated to the USA in 1854.
    Military Service Between 7 Jul 1858 and 20 Oct 1861  [6, 7, 8] 

    •      Private Conrad Thoma of [Bvt?] Major William Brooks[?] Company G of the Third Regiment of the United States Infantry was enlisted by Lieutenant Philipps of the same regiment on July 7, 1858 at Syracuse, New York for a term of 5 years. On July 21, 1861, Conrad was wounded in action at Bull Run, Virginia. A musket ball "passed through his left hand, shattering the third and fourth metacarpal bones." He was judged to be partially disabled, and discharged from the Army of the Potomac on October 20, 1861 in Washington, D.C. At that time he was 5' 4½" tall and 24 years old, of fair complexion, with grey eyes and brown hair. By occupation he was a laborer. His stated age of 24 years at the time of his discharge would give him a date of birth of 1837. This does not agree with the date of birth supplied on the Copy of the Certificate of Death issued by the City of St. Louis in 1903.
    Census 1880  St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [4, 9] 
    • The household in which Conrad Thoma lived was enumerated twice in the 1880 federal census. The first enumeration, in June, was rejected. The second, which seems to have been accepted as official, was dated November 1880. In the latter, Conrad's household was placed at what appears to be 220 Jackson Street. He was identified as married, 42 years of age, having been born in Württemberg, and worked as a cane bottomer.
    Census 1890  St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [8] 
    • According to the 1890 U.S. enumeration of veterans and survivors, Conrad Thoma was living at 2331 South Second Street.
    Census 1900  St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [2] 
    • According to the 1900 federal census, Conrad's date of birth was January 1839, his age was 61 years, and his place of birth was Germany. He immigrated to the USA in 1854 and was a naturalized citizen. He had been married for 36 years and now made his living as a baker.
    Died 19 Oct 1903  St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [10, 11] 
    • Conrad died at his home at 208 Lami St, St. Louis, Missouri. The cause of death was listed as many years of chronic rheumatism.
    Buried St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [11] 
    • Conrad was buried at New St. Marcus Cemetery. William Michel is listed as the undertaker on the Copy of the Certificate of Death issued by the City of St. Louis. According to Charlotte C. (Brockmeyer) Gerber, the pastor from Old St. Marcus Church on Soulard Street preached. New St. Marcus Church is on Giles Ave. (off Grand).
    Person ID I508  Fiegenbaum
    Last Modified 10 Sep 2016 

    Family Elbert, Anna Maria,   b. Nov 1838, Kingdom of Bavaria Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1910, St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 73 years) 
    Married 24 Apr 1864  Baltimore, Baltimore County, Maryland, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [12, 13, 14, 15, 16] 

    •      In her Declaration for Widow's Pension (sworn to on November 16, 1903, and stamped by the US Pension Office on November 14, 1903), Anna declares that she was married to Conrad Thoma under the name of Anna M. Schneider and was a widow at the time of her marriage to Thoma. She further states that Conrad Thoma was single and had never been married before. A letter from the Baltimore Cemetery Company (8 South Street, Baltimore, Maryland), dated January 16, 1904, certifies that Lawrence Schneider died of apoplexy [stroke?] on February 16, 1864 at the age of 59 years and was buried February 18, 1864 in grave No. 4, Lot No. 93, Section II "in said cemetery". Signed by William R. Fluharty, Secretary. The letter bears the US Pension Office stamp with the date of February 9, 1904.
    Notes 
    • According to the Declaration for Widow's Pension, Anna and Conrad had 11 children, but only five were still alive in 1903, and all of these were over 16 years of age. [17]
    Children 
     1. Thoma, Elizabeth,   b. 1863/4, Maryland, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    +2. Thoma, Magdelena,   b. 15 May 1867, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 22 Feb 1949, Lemay, St. Louis County, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 81 years)
     3. Thoma, Rosa,   b. 6 Aug 1871, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 May 1956, St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 84 years)
    +4. Thoma, Louisa,   b. 10 Jan 1876, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Feb 1945, St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 69 years)
     5. Thoma, John,   b. 13 Sep 1877, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 Apr 1958, St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 80 years)
     6. Thoma, Barbara,   b. Oct 1879, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified 6 Aug 2018 
    Family ID F176  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsCensus - 1880 - St. Louis, Missouri, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - 1890 - St. Louis, Missouri, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsCensus - 1900 - St. Louis, Missouri, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 19 Oct 1903 - St. Louis, Missouri, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - - St. Louis, Missouri, USA Link to Google Earth
     = Link to Google Earth 

  • Sources 
    1. [S15] Certificate of Death.
      Photocopy of City of St. Louis Health Department, Copy of Certificate of Death No:3846, issued November 30, 1903; refer to City of St. Louis Burial Permit No: 8980. Also stamped (10 DEC 1903) by U. S. Pension Office.

    2. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T623, roll 892, p.199 B. Accessed through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1900 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Ward 8, Supervisor's District 11, Enumerator's District 117, sheet 1 B, 2331 South Second Street, dwelling 11, family 20, lines 86-89. Conrad Thoma; born January 1839 in Germany; age 61 years; married for 36 years; born in Germany; immigrated in 1854; in USA 46 years; naturalized citizen; a baker.

    3. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T9, roll 719, page 365. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1880 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Supervisor’s District 1, Enumeration District 57, page 10 B, enumerated 4 June 1880, 2208 [Step?] Street, dwelling 108, family 8, lines 16-23. Conrad Thoma; age 42; married; laborer; born in Wurtemberg [sic]. The reported age would yield a birth date of 1837-1838 by calculation. This enumeration was stamped First Enumeration Rejected; compare with the enumeration of 12 November 1880 (NARA microfilm T9, roll 729, page 379; Supervisor’s District 71, Enumeration District 138, page 16 D,dwelling 19, family 50, lines 27-34).

    4. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T9, roll 729, page 379. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1880 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Supervisor’s District 71, Enumeration District 138, page 16 D, enumerated 12 November 1880, [220?] Jackson Street, dwelling 19, family 50, lines 27-34. Conrad Thoma; age 42; married; cane bottomer; born in Wurtemberg [sic]. The reported age would yield a birth date of 1837-1838 by calculation. A previous enumeration of this household was stamped First Enumeration Rejected; compare with the enumeration of 4 June 1880 (NARA microfilm T9, roll 719, page 365; Supervisor's District 1, Enumeration District 57, page 10 B,dwelling 108, family 8, lines 16-23).

    5. [S17] Family tradition.
      Emigrated from Württemberg.

    6. [S20] U. S. Army, Certificate for Pension.
      Photocopy of certificate. October 20, 1861 at Washington, D.C. Photocopy provided by the Charles Gerber family.

    7. [S21] U. S. Army, Certificate of Disability for Discharge.
      Photocopy of certificate. October 15, 1861 and October 20, 1861, at Washington, D.C. Photocopy provided by the Charles Gerber family.

    8. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), 1890 U.S. census, veterans schedule.
      NARA microfilm M123, roll 27, page 8. Missouri, St. Louis, Supervisor’s District 1, Enumeration District 56, census page 8, enumerated in June 1890; house 292; family 333; line 40. Access through Ancestry.com in March 2011.
           The household consisted of: 40) Thoma, Conrad; rank: private; company: G; regiment: 3 U.S. Inf; date of enlistment: 7 July 1857; date of discharge: October 1861; postal address: 2331 S. 2d St. Louis; disability incurred: wounded in army; remarks: [none].

    9. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T9, roll 719, page 365. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1880 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Supervisor’s District 1, Enumeration District 57, page 10 B, enumerated 4 June 1880, 2208 [Step?] Street, dwelling 108, family 8, lines 16-23. Conrad Thoma; age 42; married; laborer; born in Wurtemberg [sic]. This enumeration was stamped First Enumeration Rejected; compare with the enumeration of 12 November 1880 (NARA microfilm T9, roll 729, page 379; Supervisor’s District 71, Enumeration District 138, page 16 D,dwelling 19, family 50, lines 27-34).

    10. [S18] US Pension Office; application for Widow's Pension, Application for widow's pension to the US Pension Office under provisions of the Act of June 27, 1890, and amendments. (Reliability: 3).
      Photocopy of certificate. Sworn to on November 16, 1903. Stamped by the US Pension Office on November 24, 1903. Notariized by Charles Boettger. Witnessed by Alma Seibert of 206 Lami Street, St. Louis and Louisa Merkel of 410 Lami Street, St. Louis.

    11. [S15] Certificate of Death.
      Photocopy of City of St. Louis Health Department, Copy of Certificate of Death No:3846, issued November 30, 1903; refer to City of St. Louis Burial Permit No: 8980. Also stamped by U. S. Pension Office - 10 DEC 1903.

    12. [S18] US Pension Office; application for Widow's Pension, Application for widow's pension to the US Pension Office under provisions of the Act of June 27, 1890, and amendments.
      Photocopy of certificate. Sworn to on November 16, 1903. Stamped by the US Pension Office on November 24, 1903. Notariized by Charles Boettger. Witnessed by Alma Seibert of 206 Lami Street, St. Louis and Louisa Merkel of 410 Lami Street, St. Louis.

    13. [S19] Correspondence.
      Photocopy of a letter dated April 1, 1898 testifying to the marriage of Conrad Thoma and Mrs. Anna Maria Schneider, nee Elbert both of Baltimore City, Maryland on April 24, 1864 in Baltimore by the Rev. L. D. Ma_er, then pastor of St. Matthew's E[vangelical?] Lutheran Church of Baltimore, MD. Signed by the current pastor of the church, Ed. D[uber?] The letter bears the dated stamp (December 17, 1903) of the US Pension Office. This letter was apparently part of the documentation Anna submitted when applying for a pension as Conrad's widow.

    14. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T623, roll 892, p.199 B. Accessed through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1900 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Ward 8, Supervisor's District 11, Enumerator's District 117, sheet 1 B, 2331 South Second Street, dwelling 11, family 20, lines 86-89. Conrad Thoma (born January 1839 in Germany; age 61 years) and Anna Thoma (born November 1838 in Germany; age 61) married for 36 years. This would yield a date of marriage of 1863-1864 by calculation. The enumeration further identifies Anna as the mother of 13 children, 5 of whom were still living in 1900. Compare the number of children in this enumeration with the 1910 federal census, where Anna is the mother of 9 children, 5 still living.

    15. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T624, roll 815, page 205 A. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Anna Thoma household, 1910 U.S. census, Missouri, City of St. Louis, ward 9, Supervisor’s District 10, Enumeration District 150, sheet 17 B, enumerated 26 April 1910, 208 [Lami?] Street, dwelling 154, family 361, lines 80-81. Anna Thoma; age 71; widow; mother of 9 children, 5 of them still living. Compare the number of children in this enumeration with the 1900 federal census, where Anna is the mother of 13 children, 5 still living.

    16. [S155] Missouri State Archives. Online Resources and Datatbases, Missouri Death Certificate Database. (http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/). November 2007.
      State Board of Health of Missouri, Standard Certificate of Death #4590. For Louisa Merkel. Born 10 January 1876 in Missouri. Father's name: Conrad Thoma, born in Germany. Mother's maiden name: Anna Alberts, born in Germany. Personal information was provided by John Thoma, of 6264 Gravois Avenue.
           See the notes for this person's death for more details of the death certificate.

    17. [S18] US Pension Office; application for Widow's Pension, Application for widow's pension to the US Pension Office under provisions of the Act of June 27, 1890, and amendments.


Login