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Elbert, Anna Maria

Female 1838 - Aft 1910  (~ 73 years)


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  • Name Elbert, Anna Maria 
    Born Nov 1838  Kingdom of Bavaria Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5] 
    Gender Female 
    Immigration 1860  [6, 7, 8] 
    Census 1880  St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 3] 
    • Anna Thoma's household was enumerated twice in the 1880 federal census. The first enumeration, in June, was rejected. The second, which seems to have been accepted as official, was dated November 1880. In the latter, Anna's family appears to be living at 220 Jackson Street. She was identified as married, 43 years of age, having been born in Bavaria, and was keeping house.
    Census 1900  St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [9] 
    • In the 1900 federal census, the Thoma family is living at 2331 South Second Street. Anna's date of birth was given as November 1838 and her place of birth was Germany. She had immigrated to the USA in 1860. Anna was the wife of Conrad Thoma; they had been married for 36 years. She was recorded as being the mother of 13 children, 5 of whom were still living in 1900 (compare these figures with those reported in the 1910 federal census).
    Census 1910  St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [10] 
    • In the 1910 federal census, Anna was head of a household at 208 Lami Street that also included her son, John. She was identified as a 71 year old widow who had been born in Germany and had immigrated in 1860. Anna is recorded as the mother of 9 children, 5 of them were still living in 1910 (compare these numbers with the enumeration in 1900).
    Died Aft 1910  St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [11] 
    • Anna died at her home at 208 Lami Street in St. Louis, Missouri. The exact date is not yet determined. Some research states that she died in 1907. However the 1910 federal census finds Anna, age 71 and a widow, living with her son, John, age 32 and a widower. By the time of the 1920 census, John is residing in the household of his married sister, Louisa Merkel.
    Buried St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [12] 
    • The funeral was from Our Lady of Sorrows Church (on Gravois). Burial was at New St. Marcus Cemetery.
    Person ID I509  Fiegenbaum
    Last Modified 1 Sep 2007 

    Family 1 Schneider, Lawrence,   b. Abt 1805,   d. 16 Feb 1864, Baltimore, Baltimore County, Maryland, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 59 years) 
    Married Y  [13, 14, 15] 
    • Family tradition has it that Anna had been married to a much older man who was a saloon keeper in Baltimore, Maryland. This man died and Anna married Conrad Thoma.
           Part of this story appears to be confirmed by the documents which Anna filed with her application in 1903 for a widow's pension. On her Declaration for Widow's Pension Anna stated that she was a widow at the time of her marriage to Conrad Thoma. With her application, she included a letter from the Baltimore Cemetery Company (8 South Street, Baltimore, Maryland), dated January 16, 1904, certifying that Lawrence Schneider died of apoplexy [stroke?] on February 16, 1864 at the age of 59 years and was buried February 18, 1864 in grave No. 4, Lot No. 93, Section II "in said cemetery". The letter was signed by William R. Fluharty, Secretary. The letter bears the US Pension Office stamp with the date of February 9, 1904. There is also a letter dated April 1, 1898 testifying to the marriage of Conrad Thoma and Mrs. Anna Maria Schneider, nee Elbert, both of Baltimore City, Maryland on April 24, 1864 in Baltimore by the Rev. L. D. Ma_er, then pastor of St. Matthew's E[vangelical?] Lutheran Church of Baltimore, MD. Signed by the current pastor of the church, Ed. D[uber?] The letter bears the dated stamp (December 17, 1903) of the US Pension Office.
           It seems safe to assume that Anna Marie Elbert was the widow of a man named Schneider when she married Conrad Thoma. This earlier husband seems to have been Lawrence Schneider, who died in 1864 at 59 years of age (this gives him a date of birth about 1805). In 1903, when applying for the widow's pension, Anna stated her age as 65 years. This would give her a date of birth of about 1838. If it is true that she emigrated from Germany at the age of 18, this would have placed her in the U.S. in about 1856. There is a difference of 33 years between Anna's and Lawrence's ages. If the birth dates are correct and if they met and married after Anna's arrival in America, Anna could not have been younger that 18 and Lawrence could not have been younger than 51. Lawrence died in February, 1864, at the age of 59. Conrad and Anna were married in April, 1864. Conrad was discharged from the Army of the Potomac in October, 1861. His date of birth seems to be either 1837 or 1839; he and Anna were very close in age.
    Last Modified 6 Aug 2018 
    Family ID F178  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Thoma, Conrad,   b. 11 Jan 1839, Kingdom of Württemberg Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 19 Oct 1903, St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 64 years) 
    Married 24 Apr 1864  Baltimore, Baltimore County, Maryland, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [13, 16, 17, 18, 19] 

    •      In her Declaration for Widow's Pension (sworn to on November 16, 1903, and stamped by the US Pension Office on November 14, 1903), Anna declares that she was married to Conrad Thoma under the name of Anna M. Schneider and was a widow at the time of her marriage to Thoma. She further states that Conrad Thoma was single and had never been married before. A letter from the Baltimore Cemetery Company (8 South Street, Baltimore, Maryland), dated January 16, 1904, certifies that Lawrence Schneider died of apoplexy [stroke?] on February 16, 1864 at the age of 59 years and was buried February 18, 1864 in grave No. 4, Lot No. 93, Section II "in said cemetery". Signed by William R. Fluharty, Secretary. The letter bears the US Pension Office stamp with the date of February 9, 1904.
    Notes 
    • According to the Declaration for Widow's Pension, Anna and Conrad had 11 children, but only five were still alive in 1903, and all of these were over 16 years of age. [20]
    Children 
     1. Thoma, Elizabeth,   b. 1863/4, Maryland, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    +2. Thoma, Magdelena,   b. 15 May 1867, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 22 Feb 1949, Lemay, St. Louis County, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 81 years)
     3. Thoma, Rosa,   b. 6 Aug 1871, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 May 1956, St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 84 years)
    +4. Thoma, Louisa,   b. 10 Jan 1876, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Feb 1945, St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 69 years)
     5. Thoma, John,   b. 13 Sep 1877, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 Apr 1958, St. Louis, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 80 years)
     6. Thoma, Barbara,   b. Oct 1879, Missouri, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified 6 Aug 2018 
    Family ID F176  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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  • Sources 
    1. [S18] US Pension Office; application for Widow's Pension, Application for widow's pension to the US Pension Office under provisions of the Act of June 27, 1890, and amendments.
      Photocopy of Declaration. Sworn to on 16 NOV 1903. Stamped by the US Pension Office on 24 NOV 1903. Notarized by Charles Boettger. Witnessed by Alma Seibert of 206 Lami Street, St. Louis and Louisa Merkel of 410 Lami Street, St. Louis. Anna gave her age as 65 years.

    2. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T9, roll 719, page 365. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1880 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Supervisor’s District 1, Enumeration District 57, page 10 B, enumerated 4 June 1880, 2208 [Step?] Street, dwelling 108, family 8, lines 16-23. Anna M. Thoma; age 42; wife of Conrad Thoma; married; keeping house; born in Brvaria [sic]. The reported age would yield a birth date of 1837-1838 by calculation. This enumeration was stamped First Enumeration Rejected; compare with the enumeration of 12 November 1880 (NARA microfilm T9, roll 729, page 379; Supervisor's District 71, Enumeration District 138, page 16 D,dwelling 19, family 50, lines 27-34).

    3. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T9, roll 729, page 379. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1880 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Supervisor’s District 71, Enumeration District 138, page 16 D, enumerated 12 November 1880, [220?] Jackson Street, dwelling 19, family 50, lines 27-34. Anna Thoma; age 43; wife of Conrad Thoma; married; keeping house; born in Bavaria. The reported age would yield a birth date of 1836-1837 by calculation. A previous enumeration of this household was stamped First Enumeration Rejected; compare with the enumeration of 4 June 1880 (NARA microfilm T9, roll 719, page 365; Supervisor's District 1, Enumeration District 57, page 10 B,dwelling 108, family 8, lines 16-23).

    4. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T623, roll 892, p.199 B. Accessed through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1900 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Ward 8, Supervisor's District 11, Enumerator's District 117, sheet 1 B, 2331 South Second Street, dwelling 11, family 20, lines 86-89. Anna Thoma; wife of Conrad Thoma; born November 1838; age 61 years; born in Germany.

    5. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T624, roll 815, page 205 A. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Anna Thoma household, 1910 U.S. census, Missouri, City of St. Louis, ward 9, Supervisor’s District 10, Enumeration District 150, sheet 17 B, enumerated 26 April 1910, 208 [Lami?] Street, dwelling 154, family 361, lines 80-81. Anna Thoma; age 71; widow; born in Germany. The reported age would yield a year of birth of 1838-1839 by calculation.

    6. [S38] Oral history.
      As related by Charlotte C. (Brockmeyer) Gerber and compiled by the Gerber family in St. Louis, Missouri, Anna Maria and her sister emigrated from Germany when Anna Maria was 18 years of age (about 1856?). The sister died on board ship and was buried at sea.

    7. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T623, roll 892, p.199 B. Accessed through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1900 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Ward 8, Supervisor's District 11, Enumerator's District 117, sheet 1 B, 2331 South Second Street, dwelling 11, family 20, lines 86-89. Anna Thoma; wife of Conrad Thoma; born November 1838; age 61 years; born in Germany; immigrated in 1860; in USA 40 years.

    8. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T624, roll 815, page 205 A. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Anna Thoma household, 1910 U.S. census, Missouri, City of St. Louis, ward 9, Supervisor’s District 10, Enumeration District 150, sheet 17 B, enumerated 26 April 1910, 208 [Lami?] Street, dwelling 154, family 361, lines 80-81. Anna Thoma; age 71; widow; born in Germany; father born in Germany; mother born in Germany; immigrated in 1860; speaks English.

    9. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T623, roll 892, p.199 B. Accessed through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1900 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Ward 8, Supervisor's District 11, Enumerator's District 117, sheet 1 B, 2331 South Second Street, dwelling 11, family 20, lines 86-89. Anna Thoma; wife of Conrad Thoma; born November 1838; age 61 years; married for 36 years; mother of 13 children, 5 still living; born in Germany; immigrated in 1860; in USA 40 years.

    10. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T624, roll 815, page 205 A. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Anna Thoma household, 1910 U.S. census, Missouri, City of St. Louis, ward 9, Supervisor’s District 10, Enumeration District 150, sheet 17 B, enumerated 26 April 1910, 208 [Lami?] Street, dwelling 154, family 361, lines 80-81. Anna Thoma; head of the household; age 71; widow; mother of 9 children, 5 of them still living; born in Germany; immigrated to USA in 1860; speaks English; no occupation.

    11. [S37] Charles and Susanne Gerber and family, Genealogical research .
      Anna Thoma died in 1907 at her home at 208 Lami Street in St. Louis, Missouri.

    12. [S37] Charles and Susanne Gerber and family, Genealogical research .
      The funeral was from Our Lady of Sorrows Church (on Gravois). Burial was at New St. Marcus Cemetery.

    13. [S19] Correspondence.
      Photocopy of a letter dated April 1, 1898 testifying to the marriage of Conrad Thoma and Mrs. Anna Maria Schneider, nee Elbert both of Baltimore City, Maryland on April 24, 1864 in Baltimore by the Rev. L. D. Ma_er, then pastor of St. Matthew's E[vangelical?] Lutheran Church of Baltimore, MD. Signed by the current pastor of the church, Ed. D[uber?] The letter bears the dated stamp (December 17, 1903) of the US Pension Office. This letter was apparently part of the documentation Anna submitted when applying for a pension as Conrad's widow.

    14. [S19] Correspondence.
      A photocopy of a letter from the Baltimore Cemetery Company (8 South Street, Baltimore, Maryland), dated January 16, 1904, certifies that Lawrence Schneider died of apoplexy [stroke?] on February 16, 1864 at the age of 59 years and was buried February 18, 1864 in grave No. 4, Lot No. 93, Section II "in said cemetery". Signed by William R. Fluharty, Secretary. The letter bears the US Pension Office stamp with the date of February 9, 1904. This was part of the documentation Anna submitted with application for a widow's pension from the U. S. government.

    15. [S38] Oral history.
      As related by Charlotte C. (Brockmeyer) Gerber and compiled by the Gerber family in St. Louis, Missouri.

    16. [S18] US Pension Office; application for Widow's Pension, Application for widow's pension to the US Pension Office under provisions of the Act of June 27, 1890, and amendments.
      Photocopy of certificate. Sworn to on November 16, 1903. Stamped by the US Pension Office on November 24, 1903. Notariized by Charles Boettger. Witnessed by Alma Seibert of 206 Lami Street, St. Louis and Louisa Merkel of 410 Lami Street, St. Louis.

    17. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T623, roll 892, p.199 B. Accessed through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Conrad Thoma household, 1900 U.S. census, St. Louis County, Missouri, City of St. Louis, Ward 8, Supervisor's District 11, Enumerator's District 117, sheet 1 B, 2331 South Second Street, dwelling 11, family 20, lines 86-89. Conrad Thoma (born January 1839 in Germany; age 61 years) and Anna Thoma (born November 1838 in Germany; age 61) married for 36 years. This would yield a date of marriage of 1863-1864 by calculation. The enumeration further identifies Anna as the mother of 13 children, 5 of whom were still living in 1900. Compare the number of children in this enumeration with the 1910 federal census, where Anna is the mother of 9 children, 5 still living.

    18. [S106] United States; Bureau of the Census, U.S. Census (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration), NARA microfilm T624, roll 815, page 205 A. Access through Ancestry.com February 2006.
      Anna Thoma household, 1910 U.S. census, Missouri, City of St. Louis, ward 9, Supervisor’s District 10, Enumeration District 150, sheet 17 B, enumerated 26 April 1910, 208 [Lami?] Street, dwelling 154, family 361, lines 80-81. Anna Thoma; age 71; widow; mother of 9 children, 5 of them still living. Compare the number of children in this enumeration with the 1900 federal census, where Anna is the mother of 13 children, 5 still living.

    19. [S155] Missouri State Archives. Online Resources and Datatbases, Missouri Death Certificate Database. (http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/deathcertificates/). November 2007.
      State Board of Health of Missouri, Standard Certificate of Death #4590. For Louisa Merkel. Born 10 January 1876 in Missouri. Father's name: Conrad Thoma, born in Germany. Mother's maiden name: Anna Alberts, born in Germany. Personal information was provided by John Thoma, of 6264 Gravois Avenue.
           See the notes for this person's death for more details of the death certificate.

    20. [S18] US Pension Office; application for Widow's Pension, Application for widow's pension to the US Pension Office under provisions of the Act of June 27, 1890, and amendments.


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